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Echo Juliet Show Fliers
June 20th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

Band fliers for various shows -

4/28/95

5/6/95

8/19/95

8/29/95

11/30/95

5/4/96

5/13/96

6/22/96 (I love this one!)

4/19/97 (Jester Jamfest 97)

band badge from Jamfest 97


Echo Juliet Press, Ticket Stubs & selected Setlists
June 20th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

Press -

band photo from Coffee Plantation (Guadalupe) 8/23/96 as printed in XLent

The band Echo Juliet (from left, James Hines, Christine Ely and Bryan Dunn) plays at the Plantation. Their Cyndi Lauper cover got the biggest applause.

The Austin American Statesman’s weekly XLent for 8/29/96 presented “24 Hours on the Drag”. We were profiled and I thought it was cool press, even though our cover of Time After Time definitely DID NOT get the most applause that night. I remember this clearly. I think the writer just pulled that out of their butt.

Full text of the relevant part of the article -

Last call for coffee

Then there’s the scene at Coffee Plantation, open until midnight, though at 11 p.m., someone from behind the counter yells, “Last call.” two words that apparently have a universal effect: Several java addicts run up to get one last fix.

There’s a band tonight at the Plantation, playing amongst the palm trees and soft pink and kelly green murals. They’re called Echo Juliet and they’re made up of two current and two former students. They’ve played Steamboat. They’ve played the Saxon Pub. But tonight, they’re playing the Drag, where their cover of Cyndi Lauper’s “Time After Time” will get the most applause.

The Plantation proves to be one of three spots on the Drag where you can really catch the University of Texas students.

Ad in Arena Magazine, March 1996

Ad in Austin Chronicle, for Steamboat 3/23/97

Austin Chronicle Musician’s Register, 1996

Austin Chronicle Musician’s Register, 1997

Austin Chronicle Musician’s Register, 1998 (post-Wiley, Bryan and James)

write-up in the Daily Texan

ticket stubs from a couple of shows -

setlist for the band’s very first gig, 4/1/94

setlist for final EJ gig with Dunn-Ely-Hines-Koepp lineup, 5/16/97


Echo Juliet Pictures & Other Fun Memorabilia
June 20th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

also see Bryan Douglas Show FliersOther FliersPress/Ticket Stubs/Setlists

First lineup of the band (known as Christine Ely & Free Thoreau / Catholic Fallout) live at the Planet Theater in 1994

David Cloyd – bass, Wiley Koepp – drums, Christine Ely – voice/guitar, Bryan Dunn – guitar

band logo

1st press photo

2nd Press kit, photo 2-A

2-B (not as good, which is why we went with the above one)

proofs from photo shoots for 1st press kit 1 2 3

cover of first tape, Killing Zoë (rec. live in Dunn’s living room 5/3/95)

whole foldout

similar artwork, “Echo Juliet” demo 1995 (rec. at Music Lane, Austin, 9/17/95)

proofs of demo, front & back

an alternate view of the cover (artwork by Bryan Douglas)

all relevant CD pics are here

band photo from Coffee Plantation (Guadalupe) 8/23/96 as printed in XLent (full story here)

pics from our gig at the Delta Upsilon “Swamp Party” 9/21/96


Echo Juliet – Repertoire (The Covers)
June 17th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

(in order of their live debuts, or when learned if not played live)

We Are Each Other – Beautiful South

Wow, here we go.  This one and Not Too Soon were enormous staples of the EJ Live Experience, much to the detriment of the bassist, guitarist and drummer.  I think we played either (or often both) of these songs at every single EJ gig we ever did.  There might be 1 or 2 where they didn’t pop up, but that was so rare I can’t recall it (and I don’t feel like scouring the setlists right now).  I have to admit it, but EJ’s Zoë is a total and absolute rip off of this.  Oh well!  This was an OK song to do for a while, but I especially got so damn sick of it that I felt I was just going through the motions every time we played it.  Not a bad song, but having to do it so often really made me despise it.

Eat For Two – 10,000 Maniacs

Christine had a huge thing for 10,000 Maniacs so naturally we did a few of their songs.  I liked doing this one and though it was a staple at the beginning, eventually we stopped playing it all together.  It’s in F so that was a bit different and I liked parts of the bassline.  I thought we did a good version of it.

American Music – Violent Femmes

Ugh, gag me.  They forced me to do this one, otherwise I never would have done it.  As a song it’s only decent and I still don’t see the attraction to it, even though the audience always loved it when we did it.  I guess it was the sing-a-long section or something.  We did a fine version of it, and I’m sure if you were in the audience for this you clapped along with everybody else.

Not Too Soon – Throwing Muses

See above comments for We Are Each Other.  Only notable thing in this is that I loved to insert Rush licks into it whenever I could.  We did a good job of it and this (like We Are Each Other) was usually placed either at the beginning or end of the set.

Hey Jealousy – Gin Blossoms

Another stupid pop cover that I could care less about.  We did a fine job it (like it wouldn’t be hard to).  I think Gin Blossoms were a pretty boring band, so it didn’t exactly please me to have to do this one.

Walking on Sunshine – Katrina & the Waves

At least with this one we rocked it out a bit more and we all knew it was a stupid 3 chord, I-IV-V song.  This is really a ridiculous song and every time I hear it I just think “I used to play this on stage!”.

Just Like Heaven – The Cure

I don’t think we played it anywhere near as good as The Cure do it, but it was passable.  I got the spotlight for a few seconds so that’s always nice.  We liked to do our best Robert Smith impressions on this; that always gave us a good laugh.

So Lonely – The Police

I think we only played this live once or twice, and even then it was never at an ‘official’ gig.  Christine’s no Sting, and neither am I on my respective instrument.  I couldn’t play this anywhere near correctly and back in the early days none of us had any concept of how reggae was supposed to sound.  I admit it, we really sucked on this one and thankfully very few people got to hear it.

Happy Birthday – Concrete Blond

I’m not incredibly fond of the song itself so my memories of playing this don’t go either way.  We sounded fine on it, but it wasn’t one of our better covers.  Always the obligatory song whenever someone (either band or audience) had a birthday that day.

Breakfast at Tiffany’s – Deep Blue Something

I hate this song.  I hated this song when it first came out and I still have a burning hatred for it.  And I hated playing this in front of people.  Most of the time in this group I kept my mouth shut when it came to covers, but they had a pretty good idea that I didn’t quite like doing dumb pop songs as covers.  Thankfully we didn’t do this too often but it popped up occasionally.  True to the original as always.

Desire – U2

Now this is one I really like.  I loved playing this one since we just pushed it to the farthest point it can go.  You can’t get much simpler of a song, and for my part I could play it with my left hand behind my back.  Still, it was a fun song to do and we always got a good reaction when we did it.

Why Can’t This Be Love – Van Halen

HAHA!  This is truly funny.  I think we did this once, possibly twice, and it wasn’t done in seriousness.  We did it acoustically, and kinda chilled out, at a coffeehouse and we decided to do the middle section A Capella!  Wiley and I both dig on VH, so this was kinda done for us.  I loved doing it and thought it was a blast even though we weren’t too serious in it.

Our Lips are Sealed – The Go-Go’s

I thought we did a great version of this and I enjoyed playing it.  Yeah, it’s a pop song like most of the rest of our covers, but it’s more fun and bouncy and an unexpected one for us to pull out.  My favorite memory of us doing this was when we played at the stock show for a bunch of rednecks and during this a few of the 10 or so rednecks watching us danced and sang their heads off to this.  In cowboy hats.

D’yer Mak’r – Led Zeppelin

This is absolutely one of my least favorite songs by ANYBODY.  And I’m not alone in hating this, as Led Zep’s bassist John Paul Jones doesn’t like it either.  This is another of those songs that people love for some reason.  I don’t get it.  It is truly an obnoxious song.  As for our performance, it was fine.  I mean, it’s such a stupid song that it’s hard to actually make it sound any worse.  The audiences seemed to enjoy hearing it, so what do I know?

I Wanna Be Sedated – The Ramones

This was a damn fun song to play.  I believe it was Bry’s idea to do this one.  It really kinda sticks out amongst all the pop covers we did, but that’s part of the charm of it.  The original intent (my idea) was for Wiley and I to switch instruments and do something interesting at the shows.  We rehearsed it this way 2 or 3 times, but it never happened because I am an awful drummer.  Yes, even though this is a massively simple song, I STILL couldn’t play the drums to it.  Naturally Wiley had no trouble with the bass part.  Thankfully for the audience we decided to keep to our normal instruments and it sounded SO much better.  This featured Bryan’s greatest guitar solo ever (!).

Now You Can Open Your Eyes – David Garza

Great cover of a great Dah-veed song.  Since all 4 of us were seriously hard core fans, we couldn’t help but play a good version of this.  It did always feel weird playing it in Austin since I always considered Dah-veed a local band and the idea of one local band covering another local band’s songs is kinda strange.  Actually, I think that *I’m* just strange.  As good as we did this one (jammed out like Dah-veed did), we only played it a few times.

Me and Bobby McGee – Janis Joplin

I think we did as good of a version of this as we could at the time, but realistically we didn’t do it any justice…musically or vocally.  We got better at playing it in 3PO, but its time EJ was only decent.

Joey – Concrete Blonde

Simple song, pretty mellow, it’s not bad.  We did just fine on this and it really wasn’t too eventful.  I didn’t hate or love doing it, so it’s pretty forgettable for me.

What’ll I Do – Janet Jackson

Man, this was a strange one in the set.  I think Wiley presented this one and it took me a while to get right, but once we did it sounded really good.  I enjoyed playing this one and I wish we woulda played it more often then we did.

Brown-eyed Girl – Van Morrison

I think it’s impossible not to do a good version of this song.  Even a band with no musicianship could play this at a party and get a good reaction.

Son of a Preacher Man – Dusty Springfield

For some reason I always lump this together with Bobby McGee.  Pretty good version of this, but we played it WAY too much and I got really sick of it.  Besides us playing it all the time, Pulp Fiction was still fresh in everybody’s minds so as a whole it was overplayed.  Good song though.

Time After Time – Cyndi Lauper

I really liked our version of this and I loved playing it.  This song got us one of our few pieces of press when the Statesman showed a pic of us and the caption talked about the reception we got when playing this.  Funny thing is that this one didn’t get any more of a reaction than the rest of the set.  I guess they just needed something to talk about.

Eight Days a Week – The Beatles

Loved playing this one and I’m still surprised this was the only Beatles song we ever did.  We did a good version and it always woke the audience up.

The One I Love – REM

One of two REM songs we did; sometimes I thought we did a good job of it and others I thought we shouldn’t have bothered.  It’s a good song and I absolutely don’t want to play a bad version of a good song.  Most of the time I liked it though.

Wipe Out – Surfaris

I think we only played it once.  It’s a pretty brainless song so any band could whip it out.

Raise Your Hands – Deep Blue Something

Not as hated as Breakfast at Tiff’s, but since I don’t care for DBS (I do admit that their bass player is pretty good though) I preferred to not play it.  Honestly, it’s hard to play these simple pop songs poorly.

These Are Days – 10,000 Maniacs

I believe the times we played this it was done acoustic (Bry and Christine) probably because I never bothered learning it.  I think it’s an OK song, but I thought 3 Maniacs songs were a bit too much.

19c Expatriots – David Garza

This is an amazing song.  We only did it a few times, but I liked it when we did and I thought we did it justice.  I still love playing this bass line.  Only 3 chords but it’s brilliant.

Because the Night – Bruce Springsteen/Patty Smith; 10,000 Maniacs version

Bleh.  I could care less for this song so I preferred to not do it.  We only did it when Ed Park guested with us (he was a huge 10,000 Maniacs fan like Christine) so he could do the fancy violin parts that they did on the Unplugged version.  It’s really kind of a stupid song, but we did a fine version of it.

Cannon in D – Pachebel

Another one we only did when Ed was playing with us.  Either Bryan or Ed’s idea, most likely both.  Strange that a pop band would but out with some classical stuff, but we pulled it off beautifully.  I did like doing this and I really loved it when Bryan would come in with the contrapuntal melody.

Sunday Bloody Sunday – U2

I find it surprising we never played this one live.  It’s not on any of the setlists, but I remember playing it a lot once we learned it.  Did we only rehearse it, but never play it live?  I guess so.  We learned this once Ed started guesting with us since he could play the violin part.  We did a good version and it was a fun song to play so I have absolutely no idea why it was never played live.  Ah well.

Anything Anything – Dramarama

We debuted this at a heavy metal bar of all places, so I guess that made sense.  Not a bad song, we did a pretty good version of it.  It was nice to be recklessly heavy on occasion.

It’s the End of the World as We Know It – REM

Yes, Christine actually knows all the words to this; I sure don’t.  Again, this was another fun one to play and it always (the few times we did it) got the crowd going.

Brass in Pocket – The Pretenders

I know we practiced this one a good bit, but I’m not sure if we ever played it live.  Something in my brain says that we did play it live, but I have no setlist proof (and I have all of the setlists).  Maybe we did it at a party?  No clue.  Still, we rehearsed it and I always had a fun time playing it, even though I’m not a fan of The Pretenders.

If This is It – Huey Lewis and the News

This is the one of the few songs we rehearsed that wasn’t ever played live.  We worked up a good version one weekend at Christine’s place in Plano, but it never got any farther than that for some reason.  I still like this song and I wish we could have played it in front of an audience.


Echo Juliet – Repertoire (The Originals)
June 17th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

(in order of their live debuts)

Zoë – lyrics & music: Ely

I’m willing to bet this was the first of Christine’s songs that any of us learned. I just remember it always being there. We debuted it at the first show and played it at probably every gig until the very end. I don’t think the song really defined us, but it was a constant through it all.

Since it was one of the earliest songs Christine wrote, it’s very simple. 3 chords, E – B – A, repeating for the whole song. The different sections are just the chords played in different ways. But it’s 3 chords all the way through. The simplicity gave us all space to have fun with. I liked to put in a bass lick from Rush’s Spirit of Radio into the intro.

The song really didn’t change too much over the years we played it. We quickly got it down solid, so after that every performance was effortless. The only time it ever changed was one time in practice Christine, just goofing off, started to play the song in 6/8 instead of the usual 4/4. This caught our attention big time and we decided to try the song in 6/8. It sounded pretty cool and really made it into a different thing. We only played it once live in this arrangement and then I guess Christine decided to drop it. I actually preferred it in 6/8, since nearly all of our songs were in 4/4. I guess it wasn’t meant to be. The lyrics are obviously relationship-based, like nearly all Christine’s lyrics are (a few exceptions are out there). It’s an OK song, it was fun to play, but I got really sick of playing it every show. I still like to hear it on occasion, though.

Don’t Be Afraid To Cry – lyrics & music: Ely

Another simple one, almost the exact same thing as Zoë, this time it was a lot slower. We only played it for a few months then Christine decided she didn’t like it and didn’t want to play it anymore. We would always try to convince her to bring it back in the repertoire, but she never would. It’s not that it’s that great of a song, but I think we just wanted to play some different material than the usuals we always did.

I Know You – lyrics & music: Ely

Another staple from the beginning that lasted for the course of the whole thing. Another basic song with a 3 chord intro/verse (D – A – G). Christine added a chord for the chorus (Em) to have just the smallest bit of minor-ness in there. Not much of a change for the solo, only a modification of the main riff.

More relationship lyrics. This song became more fun to play after we recorded it for our demo. Steve, the engineer, suggested the guitars drop out for the verses and leave it just me and Wiley as the backing. That really helped the song out and made it stand out (in our repertoire) a bit.

Confusion – lyrics & music: Ely

Getting better here. I like the intro/verses; it’s pretty chilled out. The riff has a nice flow to it. And of course I did some cool bass harmonics and my cool fretless impression; always nice. If we’re going in order with the songs here, we get another instance of some good minor-ness in the verses. Verse chords are Bm – A and then for the chorus Christine threw in another small change and made the riff D – A – Em – A. It’s not much, but it stretched things a bit. The big change came from Bryan to change keys (down to C) for the guitar solo and then back up to D for the rest of the song. Fancy stuff.

I like this song and it was the best one to date. The lyrics are still all about relationships, but the whole thing worked really nicely. I liked playing this one.

Where We Should Be – lyrics & music: Ely

Hey, we’ve gone reggae! It wasn’t ever Christine’s intention to write a reggae song, but it was either Bryan or Wiley who came up with the idea to make this a reggae. I thought (still do) that it was a great idea and it added some much needed eclecticism.

It’s a really simple song with the usual type of lyrics. My favorite part was my bassline. I was pleasantly surprised when I came up with it and it had a wonderful bounce to it. This song was in our repertoire a lot at the beginning but as we had more material it started showing up less and less on setlists. I know some of our fans specifically liked this one, but I guess Christine didn’t like it too much. Too bad, I did.

Sunshine – lyrics & music: Dunn

An excellent Cheevy song gets presented to Echo Juliet and turns into a monster. I think Wiley was the kick that this song really needed. Not only was Wiley from the School of Metal (like myself), but he also had a real good concept of Groove and he threw both parts into this one and helped it be possibly our best song. Obviously it doesn’t hurt that it’s a very well written song to begin with.

For the EJ version of this we rocked it up and turned it into (I think) our only jamming song. My bass solo came into its full self and after my solo Wiley and I did a heavy metal breakdown underneath a modified riff that Bryan created. We didn’t go crazy with this like we would in 3PO; we kept it to a simple guitar solo – bass solo – breakdown – verse. Occasionally, whenever Manuel would sit in with us, we’d do some mild percussion ‘solo’ after mine. We worked up two versions of the song the regular version (solos) and the shortened version (the Cheevy one) where we went back into the 3rd verse after Bry’s solo. We would choose the short version if we had time constraints or wanted to squeeze some other material in. I obviously preferred the long version. Sunshine was absolutely one of the highlights of the Echo Juliet live experience.

Cricket’s Song – lyrics & music: Ely

Written by Christine for her friend Cricket, this was a throwback to the simpler time of 3 chords per song. Since the song was so simple, I decided to ‘make it more interesting’ and do some bass tapping on the verses. I was trying to compensate for the simpleness of the song by (hopefully) taking the audience’s attention away from the song and say “gee, wow, check out that bassist! He’s tapping on his bass, isn’t that cool!” Yeah, that’s what you get when you have a bassist who listens to King Crimson all day long and throw him in a pop band.

This was our most pop song that we had, and the chorus consisted of a bunch of “La’s” repeated over and over. Whee! Even for it’s simplicity, it was a fun song to play and I wish it would’ve stayed around longer than it did.

That’s The Way It Goes – lyrics & music: Ely

Another simple one, using C – F – G. Pretty typical stuff here: slow verse and then upbeat chorus, the bridge was a nice change. I don’t remember if Bryan soloed in it or not. One of the earlier songs and it didn’t stay in the repertoire too long. It’s not that distinctive, so it kinda got buried in with the rest of our stuff and eventually was forgotten about.

Fade Away – lyrics & music: Ely

When Christine first brought it to us, it was the usual stuff. I guess we heard something more in it and almost immediately Wiley and I made the intro & verse pretty pounding. The song eventually evolved into the perfect show opener with Wiley pounding away for a bit before the rest of us came in. I really like the drive this one had, and it had a great feel all the way through.

For some reason, Christine could never play and sing at the same time during the chorus, so she’d always stop playing after the first chord of the chorus. It’s interesting to hear this on the live tapes since her acoustic guitar was a big part of the sound. Later in the band’s life she’d use her electric on this. I really like this one and I always had fun playing it.

College Radio – lyrics & music: Dunn

Brian wrote this one in the fall of ’95 and originally presented it to me as a new Cheevy song. I initially wasn’t too impressed with it, but I was willing to give it a shot with Cheevy. We tried it a few times and it never clicked so Bryan and I agreed that it would be better suited as an EJ song. This one has a strange history in that it never really gelled until we did it in 3 Penny Opera. We played it quite a bit in EJ, but it took Wiley and I a long time until we were satisfied with our parts. I think Wiley never was satisfied with what he did on it.

Perfect – lyrics: Ely; music: Dunn

Perfect was a pretty simple song, but one we kept in the repertoire for a while. A ballad consisting of only 3 or 4 chords, this was the first instance of an EJ song getting a co-writing credit. Christine had the words, but no music, so Bryan took them and pretty quickly came up with the music for this one. I thought this song was decent and, along with Still, one of our most purely ‘ballad’ songs. I think Bryan had a nice solo spot in this (doing his best Eric Clapton impression). Years after we left EJ, Bryan wrote some new lyrics to this and called it (I think) May the Road Rise to Meet You. After the inaugural play-in for me, I don’t believe he ever did anything else with it. Not the greatest, but decent enough.

Don’t Let Me Be Alone Tonight – lyrics: Dunn; music: Talbert

Look out! It’s a monster! This was a song that was played often by Miniver Cheevy, but it never really clicked with that band. The catalyst was absolutely Wiley. Wiley approached the song with a more bluesy and groove-based feel and it really brought out all the potential in the music. In EJ, we added actual dynamics to this song and pretty quickly it became one of our favorites. I always loved playing it and Bryan always had a great solo in it. I still think that the 2nd half of the solo with the climax and back into the verse is such a spine-tingling event. I love how our little pop band could play the hell out of this pure blues song. I think if this song had more exposure, we could have seen some cover versions of it floating around Austin. I know a lot of the blues singers in town would’ve tore this up. As it happens, we were the only ones who did.

Waiting in the Cold – lyrics: Ely; music: Koepp

Another different collaboration in the band here. Wiley had written the music many years before and evidently the song kept being past from band to band until it found its rightful ‘home’. For all I know, he’s still looking for it. Wiley brought this ballad to the group and Christine wrote the words. It’s been so long since I’ve heard Christine’s version of this; I totally forgot the words. I still remember how to play the music; it’s a pretty simple thing, but still interesting enough to stay in the set for a long time. I’m glad we had a ‘Koepp’ credit in the songwriting, but it really wasn’t the best thing we did. Definitely wasn’t the worst though. It really didn’t move me either way, but I didn’t mind too much playing it.

Bill – lyrics & music: Ely

Wow. I said a lot about this one in the bio but never fear, I always have more to say. This is a great song and my favorite one Christine wrote. This song was not only important to the band, but also important to Christine as a songwriter. Every song before this one that Christine wrote (except for Cricket Song) was about 1 subject: love/relationships/affection whatever. Love songs basically. I do think that pop music favors love songs more than it should and I think that love should just be one of the subjects that is sung about, not just the only one.

So, I was personally very excited when Christine brought this to the band. At the inaugural play-in, she strapped on her electric guitar (a first, as she’d always played every song on her acoustic since the beginning), hit the distortion and sang this song that had nothing to do with love or relationships. The lyrics are about Bill Watterson, the creator of Calvin and Hobbes, and some possible conversations with him in regards to his then announcement of the ending of Calvin and Hobbes cartoons. Christine is a huge C&H fan (like the rest of the band is as well) and it obviously was an important part in her life. She really didn’t know why Watterson wanted to stop doing the cartoon, so she put out some possible theories of why he did it. To me, as a fellow lyricist and songwriter, it’s very refreshing when someone writes about something they feel very passionate about, without having to rely on clichéd subject matter or phrases. Christine really raised the bar for herself and the band with this song.

Musically it was an improvement too. Like I said, this was the first time that Christine ever used her electric on one of the songs and the first one with distortion all over the place. Before Bill, we were just a pop band; with this one we really crossed into that ‘rock’ world and even did some heavy-ish stuff at that. Nearly all of her songs before this were simple 3 or 4 chord things with not much variation. Yes there still are some I-IV-V riffs in here, but from a chordal standpoint the music, esp. the intro and verse riffs are much more advanced than just those 3 chords (E-B-A in this case). It gave us 3 guys more room to work with, it allowed us to do some heavier stuff (and let Wiley use his Tommy Lee influence) and it provided a perfect opening song for our CD. Bill was a fantastic song to play live and I never got tired of it.

Adam and Eve – lyrics & music: Dunn

I’m not totally sure if Bryan wrote this with Christine in mind for the female vocal part, but it was written for a male and female to sing. For the record (since I’m the keeper of such knowledge) this song is not a rip-off of Barenaked Ladies’ Be My Yoko Ono. Both songs are similar, but I can guarantee Bryan had not even heard BNL when this was written.

A&E is a pretty simple song, but it’s very happy and bouncy. This was another tune that brought out a different side to the band. I liked having a song where Bry and Christine would swap vocal lines. I always liked Bryan’s voice (and the more time marches on, the more people get to hear it) and this was really the first glimpse the EJ audience got of it. The best thing about this song is its bounce. I quite miss playing this one.

Still – lyrics & music: Ely

This one stayed in the repertoire for a while, but I honestly can’t remember anything about it right now except that Christine used a capo for it. It was another 3 or 4 chord ballad with love-song lyrics, but I remember liking to play it more than some of the other ballads. I think we recorded a studio version of this when we did a session at UT. I never heard those tapes so I unfortunately don’t have a copy of the tape. But like I said, this was a pretty good song that never made it on a recording. I’d love to hear it again to refresh my memory of it.

Imaginary Girlfriend – lyrics & music: Dunn

This was the only song Bryan got to sing on his own during EJ and it’s really only a joke song. OK, I admit it, I really like this song and loved to play it. A very simple 3 or 4 chord song about the best girlfriend Bry’s ever had, the one he made up in his head. The lyrics are very humorous, the music is bouncy, and the crowd always loved hearing it (even requesting it on occasion). Christine never played on it, probably because she never bothered to learn it. For its tenure in EJ we never altered it, so it always sounded the same. I remember the first few times we played it live Bry did a kazoo solo, but that soon got dropped in favor of the more economical guitar solo. I hope Bryan will sometime bring this back out, as I’m a big fan of it.

Her – lyrics & music: Ely

Nice song. It hadn’t been in the repertoire too long before we recorded it, so that probably made it the ‘newest’ song on the CD. I can’t remember if it was begun before Nothing, but we debuted it about 4 months before Nothing. Most likely it was. We’ll have to ask Christine for sure. Anyway, I like this one and I enjoyed playing it live. I love my volume swells at the beginning, as well as Bry’s “Wish You Were Here” lick. There’s honestly not a lot I can say about this. I think the studio version is pretty much definitive. For some fans it was the best song on the CD and it’s easy to see why they think that way; good song.

Nothing – lyrics & music: Ely

This was another attempt at reggae, although less pronounced than Where We Should Be. A much better song than WWSB and another bouncy one in our repertoire. I thought I did a really cool bass line, and I also really dug Bryan’s guitar playing on it. One thing about my bass line I quite enjoy was my insertion of a Yes bass lick in there. Yeah, I like putting prog references into these pop songs. Another thing I love about this was Wiley’s “Tommy Lee” drum part on the pre-chorus, very cool stuff.

This song started to show Christine’s growing confidence in herself and her songs. This is one of her better songs absolutely. Again, I loved playing it live because it had such a great energy. This one goes into the record books as being the only EJ song that had a curse word in the live version. Cracks me up. Cool song.

Ascension – lyrics & music: Dunn

I’m including this since it was played at an Echo Juliet gig, by 2 members of the band, but it’s not really Echo Juliet. Bryan and I did this once, acoustically, at Coffee Plantation on 6-29-96. We did our Coffee Plantation gigs acoustically (well, since I didn’t own an acoustic bass I was electrified) with this and the following Cycle being a small break for the “Bryan and James Show”. This song was originally done by Miniver Cheevy and it was at my insistence that we played it for the one show. I still love this song and wish 3PO could’ve done it, but I guess it wasn’t meant to be. As I recall it was a decent version, but it surely didn’t set the crowd afire and I doubt anyone remembered it after the show.

Cycle – lyrics & music: Dunn

The only live performance of this by Echo Juliet was at the aforementioned gig and this also was played by Bryan and myself only. This isn’t as good of a song as Ascension is, but it probably got a better reaction because it’s upbeat. This was a staple of both Cheevy and 3 Penny Opera, but it never was played in full by Echo Juliet. We tried doing it a few times in practice, but I guess Christine had no interest in it. As played by just Bryan and myself, it’s not that exciting and doesn’t sound anywhere near as good as it does with a full band (esp. Wiley) behind it.

Sympathy – lyrics: Ely; music: Ely, Hines

This was another one that Christine wrote using the electric guitar with distortion and played live that way too. It’s a pretty good song, but it never really got to become as good as it should have been since we only played it for a few months and in that time we didn’t have it under our belts long enough to be able to really nail it. Plus I guess the fact that the band was dissolving and 3 of us didn’t want to be in the band during this time didn’t help it too much.

I purposely wrote a very difficult and busy bass line for this which I loved playing. I had been keeping it more or less simple for the past few songs and I thought a complex one would work on here. I could be wrong, I don’t know. Regardless, I’m not sure if I ever played my part accurately since it was so difficult. For our first few live performances of this someone, either Bry or Wiley, wanted to put into the middle of this the middle section from John Mellencamp’s Pink Houses. I’m not a “Cougar” fan, so I thought it was rather stupid, but the other 3 loved it so I got outvoted. I still think it’s way cheesy and that’s probably why it only lasted a few times and then we went without it. It happened just before the guitar solo and my only writing contribution to the EJ canon. I came up with the riff for the guitar solo. I don’t know if it’s really a true writing contribution, but since I’m doing this (and I always considered it as such) I say I helped out. Anyway, this had the potential to be a really good song but we played it so sloppily and for such a short amount of time that it never came close to its potential.

Something About You – lyrics & music: Ely

Bass solo! Although barely audible on the tape I’m currently listening to, it’s there dammit. Unless we ever did an extended version of Sunshine, this was my only soloing in the group. I think it was usually in Ab, but I recall I rarely stayed in key for it. Good idea of having a bass solo, but this song wasn’t the right one for it, and I should have played it ‘normal’ anyway besides trying to be atonal and all that.

This one was brought to the band at the same time as Sympathy so I always think of these two songs together. This one is more poppy so that’s why it sounded tighter than Sympathy; it was easier to learn. It’s a pretty good song and another one that no doubt would have improved the more we played it. As it turns out it only came out a few times, so the audience didn’t get much of a chance to appreciate it.

Mr. Raleigh’s Dilemma – lyrics & music: Dunn

The last song we debuted with EJ, and I think we only played it live twice in the group. Of course it’d be a huge song for 3 Penny Opera, but it was just a hiccup in Echo Juliet. It probably was kinda rough, and I don’t think it was the right kind of song for Christine to sing. I guess that Bryan had just recently written it and both he and I wanted to do it in the band. I remember it as being kinda tentative and of course it never had the chance to develop into the great song it became once 3PO got a hold of it.


Echo Juliet – Original Press Kit
June 16th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

all text in the press kit written by Wiley Koepp:



Echo Juliet – The CD
June 16th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

Released in 1997, this was the only recording the band ever released.  The first four tracks were new recordings (Fall 1996) and we added our original demo (rec. Fall 1995), the last three tracks, to round it out.

For my thoughts on the album go here.

The front cover is a picture of Wiley’s bass drum head, painted by Meghan Williams

pertinent information

The back cover, with photos by Romain Nayal (right) and Audrey Desrosiers (left, mistakenly uncredited on the CD)

poster for the CD release party.  click for a larger view


Miniver Cheevy – Pictures and Other Visual Aids
June 16th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

photos taken at the band’s first gig, 6/28/94 at Across the Street Bar in Dallas, TX

Bryan & Dave in action

Man, I miss that bass…Bryan and James rock out

James, Dave & Bryan after our public debut

Ad from the Dallas Observer for our 8/5/94 show:


Miniver Cheevy – Repertoire (The Covers)
June 16th, 2008 under Music. [ Comments: none ]

(roughly in the order we learned them)

Who Do You Love – Bo Diddley

The first cover we attempted, we first tried it at our second practice. I didn’t know the song then and I wasn’t a very good bassist anyway, so it didn’t sound so hot. We only played it for about a month or so then forgot all about it. Played like the Doors did it.

Gloria – Van Morrison

The song that will forever haunt Bryan Dunn. We tried it also at our second practice. I eventually learned how to play it right and we went from there. We modeled it after the Doors version, where it got all perverted and stuff. Sean loved doing those lines. We still kept it in the set after Sean left and played it at most of our gigs. I know Bryan never had any interest in singing it, but people always want to hear it so he’ll still get requests for it. We did a very good version of this, even if it was exactly like the Doors version. A basic song, but fun to play.

Iron Man – Black Sabbath

The first sign of the heaviness that we’d have later. I first brought it to the band at our last practice before the initial breakup. After we got back together we learned it and it stayed in our repertoire until the end. I always preferred to play it as a quartet or trio since Matt’s presence always held me back. We took the basic Sabbath version and just suped it up a lot. I think we just ruled on this and it was always an absolute blast to play. We just destroyed everything when playing this one.

Sunshine of your Love – Cream

We did it a good bit when Sean was in the group, but he couldn’t really sing it right and it wasn’t until he was gone that it became a Cheevy staple. This song is Bryan’s blood, so it was only a matter of time before it came out. We raged on this.

White Room – Cream

And of course since we did such a great job with Sunshine, why not another Cream song? We raged on this as well and it was a blast to play. Cream songs always fit perfectly in Miniver Cheevy.

Turn Up the Radio – Autograph

I had originally totally forgotten about us doing this, but then somewhere along the line I heard it and it all came back to me. Yes, I admit it, we did cover this one. When Matt Talbert was in the group I asked for a suggestion of a cover song he wanted to do. Knowing him as well as I do, I should have known he wasn’t entirely serious in suggesting this, but I guess once I pushed for it, then there was no turning back. I know he loved doing it since he got to do all his great Heavy Metal guitar work. We kept this in for a few months, but once he was gone so was Turn Up the Radio. I mean, Sean just *hated* this song and he definitely couldn’t sing it the (cheesy) way it needed to be done. One of our stranger choices, that’s for sure.

Wrathchild – Iron Maiden

I can’t believe we attempted this one. We played it at our first party (vocals by me) and my friends liked it, but it was really pretty bad. We kept it around for a few months but once Sean was gone, so was Wrathchild. It never really came into being a good cover and it outright sucked compared to the original.

Communication Breakdown – Led Zep

Musically we sounded fantastic on this, but Bryan isn’t Robert Plant so the vocals always suffered. We kept it around for a while, faithful to the original, but eventually dropped it because of the vocals.

Love Me Two Times – Doors

A very faithful version to the original, it was always fun to play. We did a good job of it.

Strutter – KISS

One of the songs we debuted at our first gig, we always did a really cool version of this. Of course I always loved playing it, but I seem to remember it didn’t last much after that first gig.

Wipe Out – Surfaris

One of the songs we just learned off the cuff, in 5 minutes. We played it at our first gig, but not much after that. We didn’t change it up that much.

The Ocean – Led Zeppelin

What a fun song to play. We kept totally faithful to the original. The main part of the song came pretty easily, but the ending solo section with the walking bass line never really clicked. I wish we would have tried this more, it was fun to play.

Tequila – The Champs

I brought forward the idea of us doing it. We did change this up a lot, unlike most the covers we did. I decided to play all the lead sax part on bass and have Bry do all the backup work. It sounded pretty strange, but I liked doing it. I think we kept it in our repertoire about 3 weeks.

Brain Damage/Eclipse – Pink Floyd

I love these songs. We played them at our 3rd gig and just nailed them. The part of the audience that was familiar with them loved it. It was pretty faithful to the originals. Originally Dave played keys and drums at the same time (yes, he is that talented) but when we first played it live he decided to not do the keyboard part and from then on it was only guitar-bass-drums. One of the most fun songs we played.

Girlfriend – Matthew Sweet

Bryan really digs Matthew Sweet so he wanted to do this. We played really good versions of this a few times, but it never stuck around. Bryan really ripped it up on the guitar solos.

Hey Hey What Can I Do – Led Zeppelin

Pretty faithful version to the original, but since I’m not John Paul Jones it kinda suffered a bit. I didn’t care for playing it too much, I thought we didn’t do it justice.

Dreamline – Rush

Only played a handful of times, we sounded great on it except for the guitar solo. Bryan just couldn’t get the Alex Lifeson solo down right so we didn’t keep it around more than a few practices. I wish we could’ve got it right, it’s a blast to play.

Fly By Night – Rush

Another Rush one, this one we played a bit longer than Dreamline. Musically it was pretty cool, but Bryan couldn’t do the vocals in a way that sounded good. He never cared for singing in falsetto. Faithful to the original.

Crazy Little Thing Called Love – Queen

We only did this with Jay Staton since he knew all the lead guitar parts and Bry didn’t. Total fun to play, esp. the bass line. Totally faithful to the original.

Now You Can Open Your Eyes – David Garza

More or less faithful to the original, but we’d do the live version Dah-veed did and not the studio version. Bryan and I were well versed in playing this right (since we saw Dah-veed all the time), but Dave was just going off our lead since he never saw the group. A good version and enormous fun to play.

Red – King Crimson

We opened our last show with this and just let loose a killer version. This song was tailor made for us and I knew that the first time I heard it. We played it faithful to the original and as heavy as we could play. A little later we had the idea of combining this with Crimson’s Vrooom Vrooom but we never learned that one in time.


2008
June 9th, 2008 under Concert Reviews. [ Comments: none ]

  • 3/20/08 Two Man Gentlemen Band, w/ Special Ed & the Short Bus
    • The Pour House, Raleigh, NC
  • 5/24/08 Eddie Izzard
    • Palace Theater, Cleveland, OH
  • 6/5/08 Adrian Belew Trio
    • Cat’s Cradle, Carrboro, NC
  • 6/6/08 Swervedriver, w/ Terra Diablo & The Nein
    • Cat’s Cradle, Carrboro, NC
  • 6/7/08 Jimmy Buffett
    • Walnut Creek Amphitheater, Raleigh, NC
  • 6/13/08 Zappa Plays Zappa
    • Lincoln Theater, Raleigh, NC
  • 6/18/08 Iron Maiden, w/ Lauren Harris
    • Merriweather Post Pavilion, Columbia, MD
  • 7/20/08 Rush
    • Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Charlotte, NC
  • 12/19/08 The Mongol Beach Party, w/ Afterparty
    • The Record Bar, Kansas City, MO
  • 12/20/08 The Mongol Beach Party, w/ The Last Call Girls
    • The Record Bar, Kansas City, MO


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